In this episode of the 5 Leadership Questions podcast Todd Adkins and Barnabas Piper talk with Pete Scazzero, the author of The Emotionally Healthy Leader and a number of other books. Pete is the founding pastor of New Life Fellowship Church in Queens, New York and his ministry, Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, has impacted and restored numerous church leaders across the country. In fact, that’s why we wanted Pete on the podcast – the number of previous guests who had mentioned his impact on them. The conversation in this episode is rich and personal and digs into some of the greatest under-the-surface-challenges of leadership.
“The North American church doesn’t do discipleship very well, if at all.”
“We have so many people who believe, who serve, but their lives aren’t all about Christ.”
“It’s easy to have cheap belief right now.”
“We’re trying to have our American life of comfort, and we squeeze Jesus in.”
“Who you are is more important than what you do.”
“Our shadows are often unconscious, those less-than-pure motives we have.”
“Everybody has to look at how their past is negatively affecting their present.”
“Very often we’re stuck going forward because of stuff in the past we don’t want to look at.”
“I need to love my limits and discern God in them.”
“What is most important and what are the limits God has places around me I need to submit to?”
“Limits are a gift and an obstacle.”
“Our oneness in marriage is a reflection of Jesus oneness with the Church.”
“I don’t believe you can do transformation in the church unless you disciple marriages.”
“Marrieds need singles; singles need marrieds.”
“Great success in your early years is potentially a disaster for young leaders because you don’t have the inner life to support it.”
“It’s not how you preach, it’s who you are that comes out in a sermon.”
“If you’re a leader in your 20s take that time to do inner work.”
“You want to build an inner life deep and let God build his thing up and wide over time.”
“You learn by failure; you don’t learn by successes.”
“There’s clean pain and there’s stupid pain.”
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